Why Tom Leykis Is Full Of Bullshit And Probably Has Shitty Sex Too.
Dear Speed Seduction(R) Student,
One of the questions I’m sometimes asked is, “What do you think of Tom Leykis and Leykis 101?”
For those of you who don’t know, Leykis has an enormously popular syndicated radio talk show(he’s on 97.1 FM here in Southern California) where he mostly preaches his misogynist doctrine on success with women, called Leykis 101.
While Leykis talks about the importance of having game, which is certainly important, it his definition of what game is that is troublesome and twisted.
Essentially Leykis believes that women are attracted mostly to men with money, and that women have sex not because they mostly enjoy it, but to latch on to a man and use him as a meal ticket. And he further believes that by treating women like trash, they will feel the need to validate themselves by sleeping with the men who treat them in this fashion.
For him, game is therefore about lying to women about your social-economic status to make yourself more appealing and treating women like doo doo.
What isn’t stated in all of this is what I actually find most troubling; that sex is basically about dumping your load on or into someone who visually excites you but emotionally repels you. It’s about stimulation and discharge and nothing more; a sort of very vivid and interactive jack-off.
Isn’t it interesting? His view of women and how they should be treated, matches up and reflects his experience of sex. If you hold people as contemptible then how could you view joining with them intimately as something other than contemptible at worst, or merely mechanical build up and release at best?
And beyond that, his ideas are inaccurate to be generous about it. The biggest inaccuracy that women don’t enjoy and crave sex for its own sake, and that pretending to be able to buy them is the best way to go about things.
Very sad for Tom and for those listeners he badly misleads. For those of us who know how to capture and lead womens’ imagination and emotions, we know how utterly unnecessary the contempt and the lying is, and how grateful women are to be lead to the kinds of wonderful feelings they deeply crave.
Dump the hate, Tom. And open up your mind.
Peace and piece,
RJ
P.S. If you are a Leykis listener I especially invite your comments.
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July 21st, 2008 at 3:09 pm
As a hypnotist who has spent half his time over the years dealing with people’s twisted view of self and importance of money, I couldn’t agree with you more!
Also would like to add that I find your advice useful when giving therapy to both genders. I think it’s good that you offer empowerment rather than tricks.
It’s the only way in my view!
Keep up the good work
Paul
July 21st, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Another thing Leykis says to do:
If you are out to dinner with a woman and she answers her cell phone, get up, and leave the table.
Then, when she wants to know why you left, explain that you don’t “tolerate” that behavior and that she’s out with YOU, so she shouldn’t answer.
Wow…haha
Quick way to make yourself look needy, up-tight, controlling, and just about everything you should never want to be.
Someone with their head on straight would probably tease her about it light-hearted way, and MOVE ON.
July 21st, 2008 at 4:20 pm
I find Leykis very entertaining! And although he does prescribe the use of females as “merely receptacles”, he does offer some useful advice.
Consistent use of condoms in addition to a “backup”. Younger single guys should avoid living with girlfriends (actually should not have a girlfriend), avoid being used by women, use extreme caution when dating single moms, and much more.
Granted his strategy for “using women” is over the top. However, it’s not uncommon to listen to female callers to his radio show lament the fact that initially they lambasted his philosophy and then, after listening intently over time, embraced his summation of typical female tactics and strategies!
A portion of his philosophy should be welcomed by males.
Jer
July 21st, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Ross all I have to say on this is THANKGOD that there are players out there who treat the women they hunt like the lady’s that they are! Well my friend i have to be honest with you I have heard about you and your speed seduction course, along with all the other’s that are out there. But with this little email that you have sent out not only have you earned my respect but also my money as well. You will be seeing my order very soon. Thank you and God bless! (ps. In closing let me jst say that it is a Honor and Pleasure to call you my teacher.)
July 21st, 2008 at 4:57 pm
ross,
you are fantastic. i first started reading david d. then i found you. then mystery , style, juggler, fjshark and ALL the other great pua’s out there.
i have taken pieces from them all to formulate a superior game for myself.
my game grows tighter and tighter the more i test material in the field.
i live your sense of humor and your writings, i find them inspiring and thought provoking.
long live RJ!
-Jaguarpaw out.
July 21st, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Ross Thank God that there are players like you who know how to treat women like the ladies that they are. I have to tell you my friend not only have you earned my respect but also my money as well with your comment above. I am honored and proud to call you my teacher. Look for my order. Thanks and Godd Bless !
July 21st, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Bang on Ross…
What could be a greater gift than introducing an incredible woman to feelings of incredible connection and euphoria? It always boggles my mind when a guy’s attention to his lover is short than his manhood.
But, then again, leave the low life women to the pick up jerk offs who are more interested in getting off than giving pleasure. It leaves the quality DESERVING women for the rest of us. Ain’t life grand
Keep sharing the love.
Phil
July 21st, 2008 at 5:59 pm
You know if Leykis adds a few roofies to his philosophy he might really be on to somthing.
(what a dip shit)
July 21st, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Hello Ross,
I agree with what you are saying in regards to Tom Leykis before I moved from Los Angeles(4 years ago) a former friend of mine used to listen to this radio show and insisted on tuning in when we’d go run some errand on the road (L.A. traffic). He believed in the Leykis doctrine of cutting women down and I often argued with him about this nonsense.
My friend knew about my study of your Speed Seduction teachings and was/is so narrow minded to believe that what I did through language patterns was “manipulation” of imagined pleasure. And so was still manipulation in his mind not unlike the crap that Leykis preaches.
I set him straight about pleasing a woman by capturing and leading her imagination. Once with his consent and his wife’s demonstrated with her the principles of Speed Seduction. I lead her through a visualization with a rose as you teach and brought out pleasurable feelings in her body which I anchored to her left arm, I explained to him about the anchor.
Silly thing being she was also anchored to my voice so he noticed this when I would speak to her. Well he did as I suggested and when he went home with his wife used the anchor and found her far more sensual and well exciting in the bedroom than she had been before this.
To this he admitted there are better ways to treat a woman than putting them down and all of that other nonsense.
Your teachings are the best with no equal..
Keep up the good work..
Nick-
July 21st, 2008 at 7:16 pm
I agree with you as well. Although there are women that are gold diggers and manipulators, they are the ones to stay away from. You have to understand what it is you are getting yourself into before you move forward. In otherwords, being selective, looking for the one that fits you not what the media or anyone else says you should like.
I believe that you and her have to be a team for lack of better words, so that when you two are in bed she will try to satisfy you more than you have her. Too many times women just lay there and moan a couple of times because of a lack of connection and only there to blow your load. But when you know how to make her feel right, and tap into that special part inside of her that most men aren’t aware of, she will treat you like a King, like giving things without asking for like backrubs, homecooked meals, her paying for stuff because she knows you touched something in her that no one else has. Which will turn the table make and you think you were the gold digger.
Thanks Ross!!!
July 21st, 2008 at 7:28 pm
You’re right Ross. And I have no hesitation in saying that your point of view is patently magnificent when it comes to the seduction of women, the empowerment of men and the scintillating glory for both as your methods are properly applied.
And, as a hypnotherapist that is my Clinical opinion.
July 21st, 2008 at 8:21 pm
You have to understand that Tom Leykis (1) has a lot of money, and as a result attracts gold-diggers, so his perspective on women is skewed, and (2) he has a lot os psychological issues with anger.
July 21st, 2008 at 8:52 pm
well sir, i agree with u 110% ! now doesnt this guy remind anyone of those ‘PUA’ tricks ? he must be some loser who would’ve attended only one PUA seminar and downloaded a free ebook copy, that i bet was too hard for him to read…then going on and ‘creating’ his own style of pickup. as a believer in Ross and NLP, i seriously doubt this guy even gets attention from the right type of women…maybe from some rat bag whore on the street wanting a nickel, but not from women who are worth it !
nice work Ross…
MK
July 21st, 2008 at 9:13 pm
I think Tom Leykis rocks. Love his show. Time guys start sticking up for themselves.
July 21st, 2008 at 11:38 pm
Ross,
I never heard of this dude…so he must not much of a big deal.
Anyway, while treating women bad can have success at times, it isn’t a consistent patteren anyonw should run in “the game”.
And what a stupid view he has about sex!? Hell, I have women who want sex more than me (even when I’m tired) and then scream their brains out.
July 22nd, 2008 at 12:38 am
Ross,
glad you brought this up. i always wondered what you thought of this guy. i started listening to you when i was in my teens haha..in my twenties now. your teachings have helped me a great deal throughout my life. thanks for that. i considered calling tom’s show a few times when it was obvious his teachings were flawed. however, i’d rather not feed into the darkness haha he is spreading poison. better off listening to something else
July 22nd, 2008 at 2:13 am
Hey Ross.
Next to Leykis, there’s also Payton Kayne. I have a good friend who probably never heard of either of them, but would fully agree to what they are saying. Right now he is sleeping with women he has contempt for for being too easy, while chasing a girl because she’s the only one who won’t give it up for his clothes, lifestyle and asshole vibe. He takes her out for dates, buys her stuff, and talks about her whenever he gets a chance. It really shows the full extend of where this mindset will get someone.
That said, it is probably still healthier than the believe system some of my other friends have, which revolves around supplication and dried up, flaccid, private parts. I believe in status as an aphrodisiac; there’s attraction flowing from the authority that a hypnotist brings to the (coffee) table. My love life turned around when i started to study Bandler, Watzlawick, “Monsters and Magic Sticks” … and Sickman Fraud is still a goldmine for innuendo.
I’d like to know if there are any “PUA”s you consider good? There’s a multitude of viewpoints in the community (a.k.a. marketing cuntry).
Your Youtube seminar clips have been great, and i can’t wait for you to release your new HSC, so i can order it and really dig in.
July 22nd, 2008 at 2:22 am
Don’t you have anything more interesting to talk about than a one-sided berating of Tom Leykis? The dude is entertaining and the bottom line is, thats all it is; entertainment. He is the most popular radio talk show host in LA for a reason.
By the way, you have done what most callers (the pissed off ones) to his show do. You have misinterpreted what he says and then claimed that that is what Tom teaches. Tom makes it a point to never classify all women one way or the other.
The fact of the matter is that there are a lot of pussies out there who haven’t the slightest idea of how to act around a woman in a good way or a bad way because they haven’t been taught. The same goes for females. Mix that with the general assumption that these days woman desire both traditional and modern treatment at the same time and you get dating and interactions that are nothing like they used to be in past decades.
I’m glad Tom is out there helping weak-minded boys become more responsible men. Maybe you should go on radio and offer your own brand of help and knowledge. That would bring better results than complaining about some talk show host that you will never dethrone with an simple email to your email lists.
Russ
July 22nd, 2008 at 4:24 am
Hey Nick, great idea about the whole anchor thing! You are a real treasure to your friend.
I had derived an idea too with just what you did.
See, with SS not only can you help yourself obtain true happiness on a much deeper level with your woman… But you can also Instantly and more effectively and with less hassles on your friend’s part… help your buddy by installing anchored spots on the body of their particular love interest and just instruct them on how to trigger those and Kaboom!!! the girl is theirs…Give him the instructions…”Bro, push her on this spot on her arm like this to elevate her mood…and make her happy and fulfilled on a much deeper.
I have installed it there as a friendly gift and as undeniable proof that SS is the ultimate and powerful way to get what you both Really truly want, right Now. ” on a much deeper level.
No need for your friend to go through memorizing all those canned routines or go through the long and painful process of PUA pilgrimage, no need for acting different than what is real and all those years of fumbling, crashing and burning all the way with different. “Let’s stop wasting time. You have a lot more concerns to attend to. Here my dear friend, because evidently SS people are more content with all these good things going on and not just on a superficial level… I’ve specially installed these wonderful anchors for you and her to really enjoy your lives for the better.
Because SS people are sincerely good people, in fact we are almost better than the rest, we are the real deal angels as we don’t have to lie, act fake, wear different things, make another person feel bad, AMOG another hapless guy until he’s suicidal, prick with our heads and go through hell and be the devil’s helper just to arrive in heaven and get a piece of that real lovin… and Life can be sooo hard…
Since Heaven is what we make it, Now. I’m giving this gift of my skills to you without any hassles on your part, because sharing this real happiness is justice. And life is just too short….
Now, how’s that for Really Improving Other People’s Lives
right off the bat?
Nothing can beat that kind of generosity and offering of Real Value.
And it could feel so damn good!
July 22nd, 2008 at 5:20 am
Ross,
what you wrote above is truly a breath of fresh air.
For me, and I suspect many other men who are approaching there 30s, I have started to view MYSELF as little more than a commodity in the game of dating. It really is a soulless and empty proposition!
I do make good money, and I work in a very attractive industry–but the outlook that I am learning makes me feel very bashful/ cynical, messes up my timing, and generally takes the wind out of my sails when it comes to approaching women I desire.
Please write about more to address this growing frustration with young people of my generation. I think many of us could use a frame-shift!
-tolan2 (mike)
July 22nd, 2008 at 6:45 am
I agree with you Ross, which gives me a lot of sadness and hope you read this post, is that you’ve never given a tour of South America, especially in Peru where there is no pua, because they do not believe that is true, however I improved my game with your teachings NLP …
thanks for everything.
Wizzard
July 22nd, 2008 at 10:19 am
Thanks for everything
July 22nd, 2008 at 10:29 am
JM,
Yes your suggestion is a very good idea, unfortunately my former pal was one of those mismatcher personalities who rejected any ideas outside his own map of the world.
He used that anchor one time and decided that it was b/s because if she didnt feel that way with him alone then it wasnt real. The guy was a real pin-head when it came to this topic and SS he couldnt relate to opening up a woman’s feelings he believed it was either there or not.
Stupid mentality dont you think? Prior to his wife and the anchor demo he had issues with another lady that he’d make out with and get the point where she’d be all but buck naked in her panties moist and tell him “we need to stop” and she did this twice as he related the story to me.
So I suggested and gave him a word for word demo of the negation pattern based on whatever they were to break her resistance.
Did he do it the next time she visited him? Yes was she opening up to this?
Hell yes she was, but what do you think Mr. Mismatcher did?
As she was ready to give him the sex she wanted he realized he was using SS to get to this point and quoting his ignorance ” I thought this is bullshit, I need to do this to make her f@ck me?” and so he threw her out of his house when he was about to score.
So rewind and fast forward in time after the anchor his problems arose with the wife not wanting to have intimacy. So I asked about the anchor he let it lapse and with arguing well near ruined their intimacy.
I also happen to be a practitioner of magic and a very proficient spell caster of 18 years experience . He didnt mind when I offered help with a spell to make her desire him ” as long as he didnt know I was doing it”.
So I did him the favor and their conjugal life returned in full swing.
Strange person he always rejected SS yet accepted something truly outside his comfort zone the realm of the magical the truly unseen was ok.
Well SS is magic in itself and so I will never understand his ignorance and rejection of SS.
To me SS was a life saver when I was younger which I studied the SS homestudy course in 1997 it transformed my inner view and outer view of women. All of RJ’s teachings are solid and true his unstoppable confidence tapes were my first real intro to his teachings and helped with the inner self and from there I purchased his SS homestudy course.
Granted for me it took longer to grasp the application of SS, what helped me was the newsletters and seeing RJ in action made a big difference.
My first adventures involved using the memorized patterns and later as I became comfortable it just became integrated into my way of speaking. I dont want to clog up this blog with these stories I only want to relate the importance of SS in my life and perhaps share my stumbling blocks for any newer people learning SS.
Nick-
July 22nd, 2008 at 10:53 am
Ross - Your statements regarding Leykis are consistent with your teachings and I agree with you that his methods are punishing towards women. I asked you through email what you thought of him, asking if you had ever been on his show, wondering if he had ever mentioned you (that you were of), etc. His show used to be carried by a station within range of my delicate ears, but was dropped as that station changed format.
Now I have my answer, and I am grateful that you would publicly make your case.
I found his show entertaining, but like you, I rejected his meanness, his formulaic chauvinism, and his selective-to-the-point-of-censorship approach to communicating with the public.
I have already bought your wares and am practicing the wisdom you bring to men.
Thanks, as always,
BubblesBangersandBuds
July 22nd, 2008 at 3:43 pm
hey ross.
for a long time, i’ve been sucked into using the other guys methods of making a girl feeling like sh*t, and then forcing her (more/less) to see the only way of getting my validation was to sleep with me. before i used the stuff i was considered one of the nicest people other people met. after 2 years or so of using it, many people consider me a jerk. just a week ago i found out about ur stuff, and using one of ur patterns on a girl i found out that NOT ONLY was it more effective at getting the girl, but it also didn’t make me feel guilty or conceited like the other crap out there. oh and i know u take a lot of crap for standing by ur material, but thank you for doing so
-dan
July 23rd, 2008 at 7:24 am
Don’t know that Tom guy, actually - never heard about him BUT I CAN BET WITH ANY GUY that better metods from Ross’s teaching DOESN”T EXISTS!!!
I’ve read many books about Psychology and dating - believe me Ross’s is the man WHO REALLY CAN teach US “the secret” of Speed Seduction.
That is my opinon.
Big greetings.
milan.
July 23rd, 2008 at 4:58 pm
I listen to Leykis here in L.A. daily for laughs. His pick up is based on being rich. I laugh because his listeners are mostly wage slaves who won’t in any way benefit from his teachings. He doesnt understand game, pua or any NLP hypnosis style.
Personnally I think Leykis resorts paid escorts. I seriously doubt that in a city like L.A. that 10s who could be milking movie producers and people with real money are chasing an ugly, old, obese
radio host with a lousy personality.
Don’t believe the hype. Its never what it seems like.
July 23rd, 2008 at 8:14 pm
Hey, Ross, I like your sarcasm and your freaky quick responses. I know that you do a great job at what you do. However, I have one question. Why everybody denies their existance and success (maybe not existance) to NLP. NLP is the begining of it all, even though you have perfected it to your own perception. Just remember that NLP is the study of perfection and you have become perfect at what you do.
Anyway, I think that you, my friend, are the closes to the best. I have heard other great speakers and I won’t mention their names because this is your spot, but you are on the top. I keep on learning fron your CD and DVD that I have acquired in Ebay but when I have the money I will attend one of your seminars because I know your are one of the best.
Regarding Tom Lykes, he is good resource for guys who have been pussy, motherly raised, for so many years, he brings an extreme balance of the equation. Nevertheless, do not be mistaken because there is better ways to capture the attention of beautiful women.
Albert Amaya
July 23rd, 2008 at 11:12 pm
Rake is 100% correct. Leykis is GREAT for laughs. Not to be taken too seriously. His listeners are true blue wage slaves who get nothing from his teachings. Leykis knows nothing about game, PUA, NLP or anything else Ross is teaching us.
I do not know if Leykis uses “escorts” but for all his talk about bagging 10’s, his documentary includes interviews with his last wife who was a 5, at best.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8897098763382758880
July 28th, 2008 at 11:24 pm
He certainly does make speed seduction look good by (comparison), I’m not quite ready to spend money yet perhaps if i had some (social proof)
August 6th, 2008 at 7:59 am
I’ve turned both of these men off my audio players before. And back on and off and so on.
Ross Jeffries, however, has since become one of the greatest influences of my life.
Leykis does not understand the material he’s discussing.
August 20th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Hi everybody! Feel days ago, I’ve read the Neil Strauss book.
I really liked this underground world and I would like to learn about women and how to move on them!